Subject	I think this is up to debate
Posted by	MrPulldown(Tahoe) on January 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM
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In Reply To	your O2 sensors aren't supposed to cycle at idle posted by aliaZ on January 22, 2013 at 03:14 PM
Message	So you think that the car runs at a fixed mixture at idle. It does state that in the FSM, but others have argued that the mixture must be controlled. The FSM even has a section on testing the the O2 at idle. What might my rich idle condition be cuased by? the thermostate opens at 170. But idle operating temp is suppose to be 190. i think, unless my coolant temp sensor is bungled up, my car is over cooling itself.
Follow Ups	Fan Clutch ? - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 12:50:03 01/22/13 It will always be spinning. (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 12:56:43 01/22/13 Re: It will always be spinning. - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 13:14:33 01/22/13 A clutch fan is belt driven and will always spin - white22sky 13:18:24 01/22/13 always spinning - JaffaUK 13:18:59 01/22/13 Thanks. (n/m) - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 14:36:44 01/22/13 I think it expands and will slip less when hot (n/m) - njz 14:57:20 01/22/13 Correct. As engine/bay temp rises, so does fan speed. - Multi_Read (MO) 16:33:33 01/22/13 I had my car on a scope when it failed smog last. - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 15:10:11 01/22/13 your O2 sensors aren't supposed to cycle at idle - aliaZ 15:14:48 01/22/13 I think this is up to debate - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 15:56:26 01/22/13 He knows it does, but running cool will run rich at idle. - TriniTT 16:06:35 01/22/13 I'm trying. Am hoping this new fan clutch does it. - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 16:29:46 01/22/13 Thermostat. (n/m) - TriniTT 17:11:04 01/22/13 ^^^ Thermostat (n/m) - njz 18:13:09 01/22/13 The FSM says to rev to around 2000 RPM to test the O2 - aliaZ 17:28:29 01/22/13 My thermostat was replaced 15k ago. - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 18:13:58 01/22/13 what part of the emissions test did you fail? - aliaZ 18:48:28 01/22/13 Co (n/m) - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 11:14:53 01/23/13 Re: My thermostat was replaced 15k ago. - hmb 18:48:33 01/22/13 My AIV is fully functional. (n/m) - MrPulldown(Tahoe) 11:15:36 01/23/13 I passed w/o AIVs several times - BlackholeZ 13:14:18 01/23/13 Passed with a stock ECU, or an upgraded ECU? (n/m) - hmb 13:46:25 01/23/13 Both - AIV only effects cold start idle (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 14:15:02 01/23/13 Stock NA, Ash TT (n/m) - BlackholeZ 02:50:33 01/24/13 They spin and they spin and they spin and they spinnin! (n/m) - boileralum 14:18:00 01/23/13
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